Journey to the Sunnyside

Welcome back to part two of my conversation with Dr. Andrew Tatarsky. If you missed part one, we unpacked the roots of the abstinence-only model and why it often fails to support the majority of people seeking help for substance use. Today, we pick up with Andrew’s personal turning point — the moment he began questioning that system from the inside. For context, Dr. Tatarsky is a clinical psychologist, author of Harm Reduction Psychotherapy, and a leading voice in the movement to create more compassionate, flexible approaches to recovery. In this episode, we dive into the core philosophy of harm reduction, how it actually works in practice, and why small, self-directed steps can be more powerful than rigid rules.

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